Message #66:
From: AzTeC SW Archaeology SIG
To:   "'Matthias Giessler'" 
Subject: Early Military Roads in AZ
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 97 11:08:00 MST
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From: Marvin Jeter 

[Your previous message post is] --  interesting stuff, which recalls some of 
my dabblings in the AZ scene in the 1970s, and some subsequent researches. 
When we were in the field for the ASU Copper Basin Project in 1976, we 
sometimes found our way to the Palace(?) Saloon on Whiskey Row in Prescott; 
we were told that the carved-wooden bar back/mirror &c were made in 
Scandanavia (Sweden?), shipped around the Horn, a.k.a. via Tierra del Fuego 
as you mentioned, but as I recall, the folks told us it went to San 
Francisco, not Yuma, thence across all sorts of mountains &c to Prescott. 
Your Yuma-riverine route sounds more plausible, but was there also a 
regular route from SF to Prescott &c?

I visited the Camp Date Creek ruins c. 1975 with the late Rey Ruppe, who was 
then teaching a Historical Archeology course.  Some pretty good wall 
segments were still standing.  I'm a bit surprised that nobody has yet done 
any archeology there.  One of the surprising things I recall from our 
desultory background readings was that the soldiers there had suffered from 
malaria, out there on the edge of the Sonoran Desert!

Regarding your Leonard Canyon "boundary" situation, LC seems to be totally 
outside of Yavapai "territory" as indicated in both of E. W. Gifford's 
Yavapai monographs, and totally within Apache territory as indicated by 
Grenville Goodwin.  However, it is near the "boundary" shown by Goodwin 
(1942: Map I) between the Southern Tonto Apache and the Cibecue Apache, with 
the rest of Cibecue territory between it and the White Mountain Apache with 
whom you are concerned.  Also, a scan of these works, esp. Goodwin's (pp. 
6ff), indicates that the Southern Tonto Apache were closely linked with the 
Yavapai, whereas the White Mountain Apache were somewhat stand-offish, even 
vis-a-vis the Cibecue Apache (cf. p. 8, top), and even more so re the Tonto 
Apache (e.g., p. 24, pp. 50-51).  So, I would suspect that the "boundary" 
situation in the LC vicinity goes back into late prehistoric times, to 
whenever the Tonto (or westernmost) Apache started mingling more closely 
with the Yavapai (and learning about how to exploit the 
mountain/transition-zone from them?) than with the White Mountain Apache.

Greetings to all of my AZ & other SW cronies, and maybe see some of y'all @ 
SAA in Opryland...  --  Marvin